// i’m waiting with a lot of interest what will happen tomorrow in Scotlands. i just hope it will not give ideas to some people here in France… :)



Henry was devasted after the death of his son and heir, Arthur. Elizabeth confronted him by promising that they would have another heir and she got pregnant very soon. On her birthday, Elizabeth gave birth to a girl but they both died. leaving Henry alone drawning into his sorrow and grief. After losing two children and his beloved wife, Henry was never the same again.


The English Rose And The Welsh Dragon


Le Roi Soleil



'Tender Embrace' - detail (between circa 1425 and circa 1430) by Master of Guillebert de Mets

Parchment with ink, watercolour and gold. Image and text Walters Art Museum via Wikimedia



Llyn Coastal Path - Wales (von c@rljones)


Do you believe that perhaps it was the way in which Henry VIII was bought up caused him to be the way he was? or if not why do you think he became the man he was?


I believe it certainly contributed to it, as he was always treated as a second son to Arthur, whose namesake was a thing of legend whilst Henry was thought to be destined for the church. 

And then after Arthur’s death, being so shielded from the outside world by his father for fear of losing his last heir, probably contributed to the risky behaviour and dare I say it, swagger of Heny when he was king.

I don’t think he truly became the infamous tyrant we know him as until the last months of Anne Boleyn’s reign due to frustration at not only not having a male heir but the ulcerating wound on his leg which stopped him from many of his previous pursuits.

Arthur was clearly Henry’s favourite, yet he loved all his children, as some spanish ambassadors noticed the affection between the old King and his only son, or the sweet words Henry wrote to his daughter Margaret away from him. I find it interesting that when we talk about how Prince Henry was bought up, we mainly talk about Henry VII and almost never about the way his mother Elizabeth (and even his grandmother) spoiled him as he was clearly Elizabeth’s favourite child. He may had a distant father but he had a almost omnipresent mother, a maternal figure that i think he tried to find later in all his wives…
but indeed, Prince Henry lived pretty badly the fact to be the Heir. He was not prepared for that, the new restrictions it required were new and  tough for him as being the ‘spare’ had given him much more liberty now gone. there was this rift where the Prince wanted to participate as a tornament and his father was like HELL NO! you are the only heir we have! and little Henry had to watch all his friends having fun without him…
I agree that it contributed to his need to put distance between his father’s reign and his own -the way Henry executed most of his father counsellors or the fact that he wedded so quickly Catherine tend to prove it- he wanted to ‘kill’ the paternal figure.
but anon, saying that his parents are responsible of his behaviour is unfair imho. it was way complicated and Henry VIII’s character and his later injury to the head helped as well…

Dr. Freud would have had such a great time with Henry VIII ;D

*just my two cents of course*


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"O, now, let Richmond and Elizabeth,
The true succeeders of each royal house,
By God’s fair ordinance conjoin together!”